A war that is more commonly known for Nazi wickedness and two bombs being dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We were there early in the morning, and there was a group of about 30 7 year olds sitting in a circle with their teachers and chaperones. On the other hand, my mother told me that there was and still is an undercurrent of people (country folk, my mom says) from her generation that regardless of what was taught in school, think that Japan was fighting the good fight and that they are victims, etc. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I taught ESL in Japan for a year. This video gives you a short glimpse on how the war in Europe had a detrimental effect on the Japanese Economy. Feb 12, 2019 #38 Izzard said: Allied forces. Specific actions weren't discussed and it wasn't a topic that was heavily dwelled on. Korea and China make a big deal out of this. I was taught what our ancestors did , atrocious, brutal things to neighbor Asian countries in the history class. Japan did terrible things. Not many textbooks recount Imperial Japanese Army gas attacks on China, either. Teachers are general left-leaning but the approval process of text books by the central government often involve some right-leaning forces. It was a very even-handed class, one that did not feel overly biased toward or against Japan. Why? Japan's militarist nationalists never really went away after World War II, they just bided their time and waited for the day when they would be able to return to power. Wasn't Japan pretty much forced into doing pearl harbor? Like us on Facebook! Not all universities would expose their students to this type of discussion. It took some power hungry officers, bad political ideas, nasty combat drugs and a naive young emperor for the Imperial Japanese to commit such horrors . Most of the Japanese people who I know had never even heard of the Rape of Nanjing. Especially when discussing WW2. They all had large signs around their necks. At my school, we went on a school trip to Auschwitz, to learn history outside the classroom. They also were very excited when my husband put a sticker on the US and I think they whispered to each other something like that’s the country that bombed us. It is taught openly and honestly. I also know that her family was left-leaning in that they were opposed to the war; two of her uncles intentionally injured themselves to avoid service, one severed some toes from his foot and the other drank soy sauce which caused liver damage and disqualified him. share. German Heros, Weekend Read. Feel free to submit interesting articles, tell us about this cool book you just read, or start a discussion about who everyone's favorite figure of minor French nobility is! Then North korea saved us. Disgusting. report. save. 8 comments. How is WW2 taught in Germany, Italy, and Japan? Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Continue reading. Then tried to nuke again. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. This is a somewhat more serious subreddit compared to many others. But the general air of Japanese with an average education surrounding ww2 is basically a focus around the devastation that resulted from the war, the starvation, the poverty, how entire families perished. How is WWII taught in Japanese schools? ------------------------------------------------------------ How is WW2 Taught in Germany and Japan? I'm curious about what is taught in mainstream Japanese schools, in specific regard to WWII? How is WW2 taught in Japan. Contrary to popular belief, the Rape of Nanjing is taught at some universities (like the one I went to), and the discussion of the dropping of the atomic bomb was handled through the same global lens as the rest of the unit-- you could tell the professor was attempting to teach what happened, not how he felt about what happened. I know it doesn't answer your question but I thought it was worth mentioning as it's a part of conflict Japan and China had during the run up to WWII. Because even though the Japanese army did terrible things, not everyone in it was terrible. Spent most of my elementary life and some of my middle school life in the US, went to middle school in Japan. Categories. That was about it. For what it's worth, when I was younger I took part in a religious ceremony at a Shinto temple dedicated to those who died in World War 2. r/AskHistorians may be able to answer your question better. Answer: Sadly, it is rarely covered to the extent that we see countries like Germany or Britain cover their atrocities. Japanese WW2: Final Thoughts “The Rape of Nanking” is a book I’ll never forget. They went running up to all the non-Japanese people they could find to ask questions. Tag: japanese taught ww2. How is WWII taught in Japanese schools? The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in the defeat of Japan." I can't speak to how it is taught in schools specifically and I assume that there are differences in how it has been portrayed through the years since they war, meaning that what was taught in the 1950's is probably different from what is taught today, especially since, from my perspective there has been an element of revisionism from some people in Japan. I also did my undergrad degree at Kyoto University majoring in International Politics. In 1944 the Imperial Japanese Army startet the largest military operation in it's entire existence, Operation Ichigo. WW2 Japan was insanely evil. She grew up in a city that was still largely damaged and remembered goods being rationed. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children." December 7th is "National Think Twice Day" in Japan. It's pretty white washed. From what I remember being taught about the bomb while in Korea was 2 parts — first, to end a long drawn out invasion of Japan and any territories in order to secure a surrender. WordPress.com. In the Japanese equivalent of the Nurnberg Trials, held in Tokyo in 1946, many of the high-ranking officers and government officials were found guilty of genocide and war crimes and executed. China started the war, then the Japanese army were able to advance into China. Then the US comitted war crimes by nuking Japan twice after the war was already over. I explain its significance and discuss the notion that the modern and future white youth are incapable of being serious or contributing to our survival and future expansion. June 23, 2016 historywench.com. June 23, 2016 historywench.com. America nuked us. 2. He, like Fujioka, wants to change how history is taught in Japan so that children can be proud of our past, and is considering revising Japan's 1993 apology over the comfort women issue. Seldom is this Japanese WW2 story ever discussed. Yeah. Well we still learn the France of Vichy here in France so i think that the Japanese people are still talking about it ...???!!! Make sure to familiarize yourself with our rules and guidelines before participating. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Are the Americans portrayed as the aggressors? Lol, yeah for no reasons whatsoever right? Of course, this will all depend on where you study and who happens to be teaching. Kyoto University is Japan's top university along with Tokyo University. German Genius Werner Heisenberg: In WW2 He Helped The Scientific Community, It Plotted To Eliminate Him. It becomes harder to erase history as students get older so university textbooks are more accurate yet still try to portray the Japanese people and the emperor as victims. Definitely a perpetuation of the idea that Japan was the victim of the war and war itself benefits no one. I can roughly speak about the perspective of my mother, who was born in the early 1950's in Tokyo. He served in the British Indian division. … Thanks! What to do (help those in need like the nurses) and what not to do (most everything done by the war criminals). The controversies primarily concern the Japanese nationalist efforts to whitewash the actions of the Empire of Japan during World War II. I remember watching a documentary on it involving displaying the atrocities in a major Japanese museum and the general reaction (at least how it was edited) was of shock and disbelief and out right denial it ever happened. The course focused on the war through a global perspective, attempting to investigate why Japan entered the war and made the military decisions they did within the larger context of the war itself. I feel some context is necessary here: my mother lived in Tokyo and a lot of major cities there tend to have a more left leaning view of things. December 4, 2015 historywench.com. You keep asking him to prove it but everytime he has you keep deflecting ignoring the evidence.lol Evidence? While I agree with your general gist about the overall lack knowledge about Japanese aggression in the 20th Cent, I think it also fair and important to say, that most westerners I have met assume that Japanese are not taught about the war at all, even though they actually have no idea what is taught in schools, or how it is taught. We discussed at length the rise of fascism, the defeat of academia and intelligentsia in Japan through fear and assassination. Japanese history textbook controversies involve controversial content in one of the government-approved history textbooks used in the secondary education (junior high schools and high schools) of Japan. High school was rote learning from textbooks. War is bad, and we need to learn not to make those mistakes again. A thread has recently blown up on Reddit which asked the question: Germans, Japanese, and Italians of Reddit, What did you learn about WW2 in. I took a class on Modern Japanese history (read: Meiji restoration to post-WWII) at a pretty well-known university in Tokyo. Like it was written by 4chan for the lulz. And the post-war order dominated by America and the five eyes. They completely ignore the rape of Nanking? The tour began with a 20 minute documentary film about the liberation of the camp, then the guide shows you the exhibits in some of the remaining prison blocks, as well as the gas chamber and the crematorium. ", They were only following orders at the end of the day. So from the conversations I had there, I got the feeling that the overall sentiment is somewhere along the lines of, "Yes. We were at the Peace Park, which is a memorial to the bombing and has evidence of the bombing. I just took her word for it because I can't read Kanji. Date: … June 23, 2016 historywench.com A thread has recently blown up on Reddit which asked the question: Germans, Japanese, and Italians of Reddit, What did you learn about WW2 in WEARS WAR is the battle to bring FAKE HISTORY into accord with the facts. I'm curious about what is taught in mainstream Japanese schools, in specific regard to WWII? It's a lot to deal with, as a 10 year old. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. They didn’t have a choice of else their receive a similar punishment to their prisoners. Continue reading. Press J to jump to the feed. A thread has recently blown up on Reddit which asked the question: Germans, Japanese, and Italians of Reddit, What did you learn about WW2 in. I grew up in Nagasaki, went to public school. On top of that is the sobering realisation that during WW1 and after WW2 such acts where/are considered unthinkable by most Japanese. Don't have much in the way of stories. We're also fortunate that Japan never copied Germany or our usage of subs during the war. She told me that the basic line from school was that some very bad men (right-wing militarists) came to power and steered the country on a bad course that basically destroyed the country. Colditz Castle: Escaping the unescapable. It depends on the academic level, the institution, and the professor. Follow me on Twitter: My Tweets. Japan did (something) in … However, at least in present-day Japan, WWII can be taught in much the same way you'd teach it elsewhere in the world. Last … I had to say that it wasn’t very great. /r/History is a place for discussions about history. WEARS WAR on the Lies, Liars & WW2 Author John Wear reveals evidence contradicting the narrative we have been taught about Germany, Japan & the Allies in World War II. June 23, 2016 historywench.com. My great uncle was captured and tortured by the Japanese in ww2 until he passed away. I think many underlying attitudes about the war don't necessarily stem from textbooks or school, but dinner table discussions with family. The subject is definitely taught, and fairly comprehensively. Japanese submarines did hit US aircraft carriers hard early in … I took a class on Modern Japanese history (read: Meiji restoration to post-WWII) at a pretty well-known university in Tokyo. That doesn't mean it couldn't have won World War … I have read about many innocents committing suicide because … Two or three lines were dedicated to the war in history textbooks. The economic bubble finally popped and changed the culture quite a bit financially, but it's been so long that no one really thinks too much about WW2 … Then about how Japan needed to join the Big Game, the resulting embargo imposed by America and then Japan lashing out at America with Pearl Harbor. Archives. Thus the content in textbooks is kind of controversial. Close. Oct 25, 2017 4,097. Then the emporer made the Americans leave. L. Lost Fragment Obsessed with 4chan. Before Pearl Harbor, the Japanese had already began imperial expansion in China (1937) and in other territories and islands. In essence Between Mao and Japan's own take on Fascism both Japan and China got messed very … Post WW2, we experienced the benefits of capitalism and experienced a huge growth in the economy. Basically the idea in Japan is to avoid talking about the causes of ww2 at the high school level. Sort by. So Japan could never have crushed U.S. maritime forces in the Pacific and imposed terms on Washington. Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman. I examine a photo of a “game” that little German boys are playing. [101] "The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. Detained their own citizens in a camp, betrayed Vietnam and (in a continuation from WWI) China so hard that they turned communist . Member. And at the end of they day the important part was to respect the lessons learned from their lives. And so did the other countries. How WWII is Taught Across Europe (and Japan). My husband and I were in Hiroshima 2 summers ago. Apr 30, 2015 #23 My grandfather was on the beaches on D-Day and stayed in Germany well into the occupation. Yes. I spent a year at a high school in Japan that spawned three prone ministers so kind of elite. Shintoism has a aspect of honoring your ancestors, so they had a memorial with pictures of many who had died in the war. No one avoided becoming a victim of WWII. Western culture seeped into Japan, through Hollywood movies and fashion, and nowadays Western countries are seen as cool/fashionable. There are still schools that will downplay Japan's role. 61. Then the US declared war and Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in self defense. Wish I had a camera phone back then. How is WW2 taught in Germany, Italy, and Japan? Most if not all the atrocities committed by Japan have been omitted from grade school and secondary school textbooks. Eventually the teacher gave them instructions and let them go in groups of 5 around the park, each with a chaperone. We learned human experiment, we learned comfort woman, etc. Each child had a question on their sign they were directed to ask, and then a sticker for the tourist to put an answer on whatever multiple choice answer. Log in or sign up to leave a comment Log In Sign Up. The BBC ran an article on this very subject not so long ago. I would say that some of Japan's acts of aggression are downplayed a bit more than I would like, but most all the pieces are present. The course focused on the war through a global perspective, attempting to investigate why Japan entered the war and made the military decisions they did within the larger context of the war itself. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. After watching several documentaries about Japan in WW2, about the kamikaze program, the rape of Nanking and the atrocities that took place in Unit 731, one thing that stood out to me was that despite all of this many Japanese are taught and still believe that Japan was a victim of WW2 … I wouldn't call myself a history buff by any means, but shit like Unit 731 is played down a huge degree in Japan and is one of those "forgotten holocausts". However most of the actual war was turned strategic. I was only 15 when he died and veterans don't like … How is WW2 Taught in Germany and Japan? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21226068. I don’t know much, but I can add a little. Jul 22, 2005 16,453 0 0. The kids were SO excited for our answers and had clearly been learning about the bombings in school at a very young age. China and Korea take issue with this lack of reviewing the past, the convenient shuffling under the rug of the atrocities and a lot of the animosity Japan see from these countries is a result of that combined with Korean and especially Chinese politicians pandering to their domestic electorate. hide. We learned what caused it to happen including the sino-Japanese war and the Russo-Japanese war. I understand the risk to have animals wondering in the streets but this decision was really awful.. massoluk. The Japanese Army during World War II committed many crimes against humanity that were ordered by the government and high command. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Questions were like, “why did you come to the peace park?” And “how can we achieve peace” and “where are you from?”. From my mother's telling they were taught that Japan was to blame for the war. At university it was a different matter. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Empire of Japan entered World War II in September 27, 1940, by signing the Tripartite Pact with Germany and Italy, though, it wasn't until the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, that the US entered the conflict. She was taught in school simply that there was war and that Japan lost. What is taught in regard to the reason for the dropping of the Bombs? Are the Americans portrayed as the aggressors? Posted by 3 hours ago. What is taught in regard to the reason for the dropping of the Bombs? The Japanese’s soldiers brutally killed, raped, and slaughtered twice as many people that died in Hiroshima, and Nagasaki combined. Close. Archives. Continue reading. So what she was taught in school may vary from what was taught in the countryside. A thread has recently blown up on Reddit which asked the question: Germans, Japanese, and Italians of Reddit, What did you learn about WW2 in. Archived. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. Much like any subject where there is room for interpretation of the material on the part of the instructor, you could take a lesson on the same topic at two different academic institutions and learn two entirely different perspectives. Like us on Facebook! (Ex. Japanese high schooler here. Read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21226068. I was the only blonde haired kid at high school and in my faculty at Kyoto Uni. The priest explained that the pictures included war criminals alongside nurses who only tried to save lives. 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